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Comic: 720p vs. 1080i - The Great HD TV Debate EXPLAINED and SOLVED

I bought an HD TV a few months ago, and it’s made my life very complicated. With my old piece of crap TV, I just plugged it in, turned it on, and watched 90210 reruns until I was sated. Now I have to screw with component cables, industry standards, and manuals that are so thick you’d think Tolstoy had written them (that is, in Korean which was then translated to English by an Eskimo with a Korean/English decoder wheel that he found in a box of cereal (and, yes, Tolstoy was fluent in Korean, and he did write technical manuals, and you’re wrong if you say I’m wrong, and, anyway, he’s dead now so it’s not like you can ask him)).

What I’ve learned is that I’m not ready for the 21st century. I miss rotary telephones, movies like ET, and Tab. I’m about as at home here in these modern times as Jesus Christ would be in Las Vegas (actually, Jesus might fit in pretty well in Vegas, but you know what I mean).

The biggest issue so far arrived along with my Xbox 360. In case you aren’t familiar with the 720p vs. 1080i issue, there are two main resolutions at which HD TV is currently meant to operate, and the 360 supports both of them. The point of contention is over which is better. Some people say 720p, and others say 1080i. 720p, they say, is better for motion, while 1080i is better for looking at photographs.

If the argument ended there, then my decision would be made. Unfortunately, it doesn’t end there. If you just do a little internettin’, you’ll find debates all over the place, mostly conducted by nine year olds who got hold of the password to mummy’s AOL account and regurgitated the arguments they’d read elsewhere.

The average discussion goes like this:

A/V Geek #1: OMG!>!>! i just got a hd tv for my burthday nd i need 2 no if 720p or 1080i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???!!!!!

[A brief interruption, if you don’t mind. I just have to stop and say that the use of more than one exclamation point side-by-side, in any context (except comics), is a sign of mental insanity, a marketing degree from the University of Phoenix Online, or both.]

A/V Geek #2: d0od read the FAq u r so st0opid omg LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A/V Geek #1: pleawse tell me i need 2 no bcuz wich one???!!

A/V Geek #2: u r a dooshbag

A/V Geek #1: whuts a dooshbag!!!?

A/V Geek #2: its u idiot ur a dooshbag

A/V Geek #1: whuts wrong w/ dooshbags???!!?

A/V Geek #2: u r dooshbag u put doosh in it and its a bag

A/V Geek #1: whuts a doosh??!!!! can u put it in a box???????? or just bags!!!!????!!?!?!

There. That should have brought you up to speed on the finer points of the debate.

To summarize, if you don’t know the difference, you’re a “dooshbag.”

While I’m fairly technical and know what it means when someone’s a “dooshbag,” I realize that some of my readers aren’t as intellectually sharp as I am, so I’ve taken it upon myself to distill the meat of the debate and present it in comic form in layman’s terms.

I hope this helps you when it’s time to make the Big Decision.

If you have any questions, then u r a dooshbag.


After Blog Mint [?] :

George recently gave me all the inspiration I’d ever need to avoid posting photos of myself or Aydika anytime in the near future.

Weirdo.

Published Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:30 AM by Rory

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Comments

 

Oompa Loompa Doopity Doo said:

Handy fanboy grammer tips for A/V Greek #1:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/11/03

December 6, 2005 2:14 AM
 

Larry O'Brien said:

"Interpolated"? "Interpolated"? OMG!!!!!! U R SUCH A DOOSHBAG!!!! NOTHING U SAY R DRAW CN POSSIBLY B TRUSTED!!!!!!
December 6, 2005 3:02 AM
 

Jason F. said:

Interpolated...Interlaced.... They're kind of the same....

All your base are belong to Oompa Loompas.
December 6, 2005 3:11 AM
 

Rory said:

Larry -

"OMG!!!!!! U R SUCH A DOOSHBAG!!!! NOTHING U SAY R DRAW CN POSSIBLY B TRUSTED!!!!!!"

Neopoleon.com has never been about factual correctness.

Or any other kind of correctness, really.

Thanks for pointing it out, though. I remember having felt a little twinge of "THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT FUCKING WORD, YOU DOOSHBAG" in the back of my head when I was writing it, so it's nice to know why :)
December 6, 2005 3:24 AM
 

Bil Simser said:

Hmmm, I read this blog in both 720p and 1080i but still don't see which one is better.

P.S. Rory is a Dooshbag

P.P.S. And a pudding-head

P.P.P.S. There is no such thing

Dooshbag
December 6, 2005 5:30 AM
 

poop said:

isnt interlaced supposed to be smoother than progressive
December 6, 2005 8:42 AM
 

Chris Wallace said:

And I always thought the "p" stood for parallel.
December 6, 2005 2:28 PM
 

ObviouslyNOTGeorge said:

I don't know anything about HDTV (I tend not to pay attention to technologies I won't be able to afford for five years)...but that George guy you link to in your after blog mint...HUBBA HUBBA!!!!


Teh CodeRoom FTW!!!!!!!111!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1!!!!

December 6, 2005 4:15 PM
 

Randy said:

Actually, I did wonder about this... I mean I jumped right to 1080i with the 360... now I'm going to have to try 720p and see if there's a noticible difference.
December 6, 2005 5:05 PM
 

Maurice said:

OMG, that was brilliant... why can't all video geek concepts be explained this well?
December 6, 2005 6:20 PM
 

John said:

I have seen jesus here in Vegas. He was hitting up the working girls, as he is well known to do
December 6, 2005 7:58 PM
 

Ian said:

Dude, that hobbit is a total stoner dude. Nice red-eye un-reduction.

In other news, I may, or may not be inebriated,man.

In other,other news -why doesn't ABC broadcast in HD on Comcast bay area?
Huh? answer that comic man.

In last minute, other,other,other news.. Your Oompa Loompa dudes eyes are freakin me out.
Dude.

"And I always thought the "p" stood for parallel. "
And I always though that it stood for Pigging doesn't work on my Comcast HD DVR/HD TV combo. But to be fair your guess is shorter and likely more correct.
December 7, 2005 6:21 AM
 

Anonymous said:

December 7, 2005 4:07 PM
 

Flameduck said:

I suck cock
December 7, 2005 4:31 PM
 

mangie said:

top notch rory. if all tech manuals were written this well, i'd be able to work the remote control for my receiver. you want to come over and show me how to do that? i promise to wear a body condom.
December 7, 2005 6:12 PM
 

Phatster said:

Explained, Yes. Solved, Nyet.
December 7, 2005 9:39 PM
 

Anonymous said:

"Rory Blyth erklärt sehr anschaulich den Unterschied zwischen HDTV 720p und 1080i:"

I totally agree with this comment!
December 7, 2005 9:57 PM
 

Tanstaafl said:

Say, didn't you use to work in Chernobyl?
They had manuals just like these.
Great stuff!
December 7, 2005 10:22 PM
 

Anonymous said:

December 8, 2005 12:37 AM
 

silee said:

Rory, my man, good news: Tab can still be found at your local grocer's. I wouldn't suggest using it to deush though.

On second thought, deushing with Tab might work out great for a tasty new beverage.
December 8, 2005 1:36 AM
 

Anonymous said:

Did I just let midgets with green hair explain to the technological advances going on my living room?

*starts to whimper, walks away and cries in the bed for 10 minutes*
December 8, 2005 1:51 AM
 

what just happened? said:

I thought it was spelled 'douche'
December 8, 2005 2:23 AM
 

Judah's Blog said:

Little blurb on oompa loompas & hobbits
December 8, 2005 3:24 AM
 

vizzini said:

> I thought it was spelled 'douche'

u r stoopid
December 8, 2005 3:47 AM
 

Anonymous said:

wow, this was easily one of the funniest things i've ever read.
December 8, 2005 5:28 AM
 

Anonymous said:

^^^it IS Spellled "douche", that's the point...


wow, this was easily one of the funniest things i've ever read.
December 8, 2005 5:28 AM
 

Anonymous said:

December 8, 2005 2:11 PM
 

New Duke said:

Yeah great job Rory, funniest cartoon I've seen in ages.

And even my wife now understands HDTV, nice one.
December 8, 2005 3:08 PM
 

NIck Blume said:

Dude, I am such a homo!
December 8, 2005 3:20 PM
 

Butt-Head said:

He, He, He
That Oompa-Loompa said 'Dongs'.
December 8, 2005 4:30 PM
 

Butt-Head said:

I said Oompa-Loompa when I meant Hobbit, I'm cool.
December 8, 2005 4:31 PM
 

Ron James said:

What does it matter if the porn vidoe are not filmed in HDTV????
December 8, 2005 5:09 PM
 

Jeff said:

"What does it matter if the porn vidoe are not filmed in HDTV????"

Obviously, you didn't watch the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show in HDTV glory. That's one program I'm saving along with that big box of kleenex on the nightstand.
December 8, 2005 7:09 PM
 

Anonymous said:

December 8, 2005 7:47 PM
 

Me said:

Not bad, but THERE IS A HUGE FLAW IN YOUR ARGUMENT (oh here comes the flames).
1080i still draws more lines each frame ya douche bag, but each frame consists of 2 FIELDS, meaning that it field #1 is what the image looked like half-height and field #2 is what the a half-height image but should display what the subject looked like 1/2 a frame later. It them combines these two fields to make 1 FRAME. When properly displayed, moving images should appear more fluid. However, this interlacing only works when you shoot with a digital camera with interlacing ON. Film is not interlaced, therefore it should be displayed as full-height frames with no interlacing. Oh here come the flames. Later
December 8, 2005 7:58 PM
 

lucidjit said:

Simple solution...

Just get one of the 1080p units slated to come out this year.

Apparently there are a few, but from what I've read, a lot of them aren't full 1080p as they're labeled.

They're on the horizon though.

p.s. You're all douchebags...
December 8, 2005 7:59 PM
 

Anonymous said:

I have a 1080p and it kicks ass!
December 8, 2005 8:05 PM
 

macattack said:

omg Oompa Loompas! **goes up to plasma tv** Oompa Loompas where are you? come out come out i will save you!!!!! **breaks open plasma TV**
December 8, 2005 8:07 PM
 

Anonymous said:

Dear Dooshbags,

"I" is like you lick the outside of labia and clit very fast.
"P" is you tease the labia and clit slowly and every now and again stick your tongue in it for longer periods of time.

Conculsion: It depends... Ask UR SELF R U do U suck teh unwashed cheesy fecalized shlong OAR do U like teh bushy slimy clam.

Long live betamax you dorks.
December 8, 2005 8:15 PM
 

Anonymous said:

December 8, 2005 8:26 PM
 

chauss513 said:

That has to be the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen.
December 8, 2005 8:35 PM
 

Gargoyle said:

It's spelled <font size=+2>DOUCHE</font> you f'in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche">Douche</a>-Bags!

December 8, 2005 8:36 PM
 

derp said:

it's even better cause this site is linked from microsoft.com! rock
December 8, 2005 8:36 PM
 

Formula said:


I just watched a 60 minute movie on the making of Douchebags and I laughed, cried and cheered simultaneously. It's amazing how well represented the clarity of a DoucheBag is in 720p.
December 8, 2005 8:37 PM
 

Josh Baltzell said:

My TV is 1080getBent and it kicks even more ass.
December 8, 2005 8:43 PM
 

brixon said:

What about Flat Screens and Oompa Loompas, that seems like bad working conditions.
December 8, 2005 8:45 PM
 

nutty fudge said:

fuk the 1080i and 760p or whatever else j00 gotz. i want an x-box with PeeCee monitor interface so i can run at 1600x1200
December 8, 2005 9:06 PM
 

Anonymous said:

... So which is better?
December 8, 2005 9:09 PM
 

Anonymous said:

Red ones are best.
December 8, 2005 10:08 PM
 

Anonymous said:

I remember 1080 snowboarding for the nintendo 64. That was a good game
December 9, 2005 1:51 AM
 

Jojje said:

Dosen't tell you which one is the best but explains the resolutions. 720p = 1280x720 (standard 17" monitor), 1080i = 1920x1080 (ie. apple's 23" monitor). If a human brain can't tell the difference between a half or a whole frame, at 24-15fps, then my guess would be that 1080i is the best one. But then again, isn't it a question about the source? If you record a TV program (640x480-ish NTSC, 7??x5??-ish for PAL) and play it on a pc monitor in resolution 1280x1024, stretch it to fitt scren, it looks ugly. So at what resolution will broadcast be?
December 9, 2005 1:18 PM
 

Anonymous said:

I like grapes...
December 9, 2005 2:06 PM
 

Danny Howard said:

LOL

Seriously, I enjoyed your page but I'm really only commenting here because I want my URL to get around the Internet and get me summa that ADSENSE revenue and it just seemed an apropriate response given your subject. :)

Love,
-danny
December 9, 2005 10:35 PM
 

Anonymous said:

whats a url?
December 10, 2005 6:51 PM
 

zzz said:

True geeks use computer display long time capable of 1080p (note: P) for their PON (pron on demand).

For not figuring that out, you must be a big...
December 12, 2005 3:42 PM
 

Anonymous said:

December 12, 2005 11:04 PM
 

Anonymous said:

Assomw post
December 15, 2005 10:39 PM
 

Anonymous said:

23 is by far the best
December 17, 2005 2:36 AM
 

Phil245 said:

You guys forget all about refresh rates and horz freq. 1080i is only 2 540i put together
December 28, 2005 8:11 PM
 

jj_knight said:

If 1080i is NOT better then 720p, then why would they have bothered to make 1080i? And why would all the manufacturers say that 1080i will display the best picture? Maybe i'm way out of line but it only seems to make sense that 1080i is better.....
January 5, 2006 2:39 AM
 

X said:

In my limited experience with HD and Xbox 360 I can say the following:

All games look better and sharper at 1080i on the Xbox 360, however, call of duty 2 does have major flickering problems at 1080i. I can set my Xbox to 720p and my TV to 540p (My TV only supports 480p, 540p and 1080i) and then the flickering goes away but at the loss of some display quality. Other than this, 1080i rocks for NSF Most Wanted and the Fight Night 3 demo.
January 11, 2006 9:39 AM
 

veganjames said:

That really is very funny. I am starting to understand HDTV for the first time now.
January 14, 2006 7:10 PM
 

Phil245 said:

If you really want to know go here

http://alvyray.com/DigitalTV/Naming_Proposal.htm

you will have to cut and paste

Phil 245
January 23, 2006 10:03 PM
 

Antenna Geek said:

Natural resolution of your HD TV is not the only thing that matters. The resolution of the received signal is also important.
A TV set converts an incoming signal to its natural resolution (720p to 1080i or vice versa) and the signal quality may be slightly deteriorated by such conversion.

Personally, I don't have any preference between 720p and 1080i. They are nearly the same.
May 30, 2006 11:36 AM
 

me said:

yes or no....... is 1080i better all round ?
May 30, 2006 10:44 PM
 

The HDTV Guy said:

Just to let you all know: 1080i is the best, I know because I'm an expert, so you can all stop arguing about it because the matter is now settled.
Question: do your hobbits smoke charas or skunk? mine seem to have a preference for the black stuff, but last night I threw some crack in the back of the display and now my signal quality is totally wankerred.
May 31, 2006 2:59 PM
 

Anonymous said:

OMG! So funny!

August 6, 2006 9:37 PM
 

TrackBack said:

More HDTV info
December 6, 2005 3:16 AM
 

TrackBack said:

720p vs 1080i
December 6, 2005 3:06 PM
 

TrackBack said:

Rory Blyth explains the difference between 720p and 1080i
December 7, 2005 3:00 PM
 

TrackBack said:

Erklärung über den Unterschied 720p<->1080i
December 7, 2005 5:57 PM
 

TrackBack said:

720p vs. 1080i
December 12, 2005 9:38 PM
 

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Lager Lunch said:

I had a nice long conversation with an &amp;quot;outsourced&amp;quot; representative of Samsung.&#160; I out and out told her I wasn't going to take the 720p tv.&#160; She tried to explain to me that 720p can show a 1080i signal.&#160; I didn't buy that
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