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Customer Feedback - Potato Feet

I’ll admit it. At the risk of sounding like a jerk (actually, it’s a little too late to sound like anything else after keeping this blog for a couple years), I don’t have much time to read other sites and blogs. Between writing here, doing my day job, producing original content for TinyThings, working on a totally secret project that only three other people in the universe know about, and now getting my hands in the MSDN TV and Channel9 pies (more to come on that later), my days are absurdly full. Probably part of the reason my brain is setting off alarms, telling me to calm down and sleep for a couple weeks.

Still, though, I like to check my inbound links on Technorati from time to time. It’s ego-surfing, yeah, but I’ve met some cool people and found some cool sites just by following some of the links.

This morning, I followed one of the links over to Adam Herscher’s site. He was talking about customers:

Let's face it. A good deal of the time, the customer is wrong. The customer just doesn't get the technical challenges stopping you from building her feature. The customer didn't take 3 seconds to just RTFM. And you... you just want to lay the smack down.

And then, on the subject of shitty customer feedback:

How would you respond to something like this? Would you delete it from your blog? Would you just ignore it? Would you succumb to the urge to get defensive and argue on behalf of yourself and your product?

This is topical for me since the past few weeks as a Microsoft presenter have been rough where customer feedback is concerned.

There was, as some of you may have read, the presentation where I received a six (on a scale of one to nine, with nine being the best) from a customer because “There was too much butter on the popcorn.”

That was just one comment of thousands.

For the most part, customers are good, decent people. My gut feeling is that ninety-nine out of a hundred are polite, well-intentioned folks.

That other one, though – that’s another story, and I’ve been trying to figure that one customer out since I started my job.

We provide comment fields on our evaluation forms because we genuinely want to get better at what we do. Deciding how much butter should go on people’s popcorn isn’t part of that process.

I’m hoping that some of you (comment anonymously if you like) can help me understand just what in the hell it is that leads people to slam a product or service, and then leave a comment that has almost nothing to do with that product or service.

I think of it as the “Princess and the Pea” scenario – everything’s just great, except for that one tiny little bump that ruins everything (which it shouldn’t). It seems at times that people expect perfection, and if they don’t get it, it pisses them off.

That’s when they leave the low scores and useful comments.

What’s really mind-boggling is that some customers give us low scores and negative comments for things that we had absolutely no control over. Not only that, but the comments are often so short as to be useless. Most of the time, they just don’t make any sense at all:

– “Too much traffic”

– “More fruit”

– “Bacon?”

– “Socks too tight”

– “Galaxy moving too fast - never coming to MS event again”

– “Godfather III was terrible”

– “Underwear warmly gripping - concerned about fertility”

– “Eight”

– “Bill Gates invented the internet - stay out of Utah, but bring dip for the raisins”

– “Please control weather next time”

– “Dethrone Bethlehem using five stop signs”

– “Please remove embedded dachshund”

I’ve finally decided that the best possible negative customer feedback is probably “Potato Feet.”

It’s short, it means nothing, and there’s no way for me to improve after reading it. It’s the perfect accompaniment for a low score, say around two or three on the one to nine scale.

Yup. That’s why I get up in the morning, travel all day to strange towns, and put in fourteen-hour days.

“Potato Feet.”

What’s up, yo? Are you one of the “Potato Feet” customers?

Published Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:42 PM by Rory

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Comments

 

John Batdorf said:

Having been to MANY of these things, and even a few of yours Rory, I can say that I've talked to people that are there for the freebie.

Obviously sometime it's a draw. I ususally get a few things out of the presentations that I can take back to my job.

I think you are an exception to the rule, you obviously were upset that some moron wrote about the popcorn and leaving a low score.

Here's my guess, he though it would be funny. I suspect a lot of people mechanically check the boxes, turn their responses in, and get what they want out of the deal. So if a low score that has nothing to do with your talk is upsetting, what about the people that are checking the excellent column, and not telling you how to improve?

I agree with the 99/100 statement. I'm not as optimistic as you, and I'd put it even lower like 85/100 or maybe 90/100. Some people are just lame. These are the people that take 3 days to respond to an email, the ones that don't return a phone call for weeks.

Maybe some people at these events see how passionate you are, and how much you enjoy what you do, and are just jealous?

Seriously, weed this stupid feedback out, just like a junk mail filter in Outlook... oh wait.. maybe a better analogy is called for. Anyhow, I've seen your events... they're really good.
March 1, 2006 9:07 PM
 

George Clingerman said:

Well, I guess I question whether the people who leave comments (such as the ones you've illustrated) actually realize what they are doing to you and your job.

I think circling a lower score and leaving a sarcastic comment ("The popcorn needs more butter") isn't a real review or meant to be harmful to you, just some attendee thinking they are being funny.

I know I've done similar things on the comments (but to the other extreme), I've written in things like, "I love Rory, I think he and I must be soul mates" which I guess would equate to as much benefit to you as "The popcorn needs more butter", only difference is that I circled a written in ten to go with my funny comment and this wise ass circled a "6" to go with his fake derogatory comment.

You do always stress at the start of your talks that your reviews are heavily based on the rating giving to you by the listeners with anything below a "9" being horrible, but there's a strong chance that people don't know you're being absolutely serious since you say that in such a funny way.

Then even if you get the message across that you are serious, you're still going to get the guys that just can't resist writing that funny little quip they took the whole presentation to think up into the additional comments section. ("The girl in front of me wasn't hot enough")

Anyway, I think you can't ever stop the stupid, job performance hurting comments from coming but you might be able to reduce the quantity by making it a clearer at the beginning of your presentation, that although you can appreciate the humor, the comments and ratings (even the sarcastically funny ones) do indeed harm your performance reviews so people taking the time to fill them out with a serious attitude would be appreciated.

That will at least help filter out the nice people that were leaving the sarcastic comments without actually thinking about the fact you would be negatively impacted.
March 1, 2006 9:16 PM
 

skicow said:

I agree with John 100%.

Some people are there for the free stuff - reminds me of when Letterman used to have his "Can we have some free stuff" segment on his show a few years ago. People go there for the presentation, fill out the response cards without thinking, and leave. Hell, I've been to a few presentation where I was interested in what was being shown but didn't really care to fill out the response cards....just couldn't be bothered - call me a lazy ass.
March 1, 2006 9:17 PM
 

James Dean said:

'– “More fruit”'

Rory, I'd just like to say I think your blog is fruity enough.

A complimant for the Big Guy - <That clicking sound you make with your tounge> <fingers pointed in a gun shape> <wink>

March 1, 2006 9:37 PM
 

Mark said:

O.K., O.K., Eight and a half!
March 1, 2006 9:53 PM
 

Ian said:

Thankfully presentation scores don't affect my staying employed (although they might affect how often I get asked to travel&speak so complain away!) but the best/worst/most laughable comment myself and my co-worker/presenter recieved was the following gem:

"If I'd known what the session was about I wouldn't have attended"

It was a presentation on web services and was clearly outlined in the agenda as being focused on interoperability.

<shrug> we just had to laugh - what else can you do?

We have 2 this year, 1 on SOA's and one on web service mechanics (the building blocks of web services).
I'll be looking out for the 'not enough was said about how to make a good apple pie' comments and will post any gems.
March 1, 2006 9:58 PM
 

Ian Smith said:

I guess I've a rather different perspective on the whole thing.

I was a full time course instructor for a couple of years and I soon noticed one thing: the quality of the course/presentation has very little to do with the critiques. It's mainly about whether people "click" with you or not, and there will always be assholes who mark you down, just as there will always be people who will give you a high mark when you KNOW you deserved no more than a three (I've been there, I've done that "three" course!)

My worst experience was having to teach a group of 20 people from the same firm two courses on CICS: one was a programming course, the other was an "application design workshop". We typically got these courses a week or two before the first time teaching them and we were usually full time teaching so there was little prep time other than in your own time when you got the course because you were expected to be an expert in the subject anyway. The programming course was a nightmare - basically a photocopied set of pages of the main API calls. Dull, dull, dull! Two days of material I reckoned that I had to make last 5 days. I told every anecdote I could, shamelessly 'smoke and mirrored' my way through the 5 days, made up labs on the spot etc and expected the worst. I was somewhat relieved at the end of the week when the critiques came in and averaged between 8 and 9. Three weeks later the "application design workshop" arrived. The same photocopied API pages, just with a different cover page with the new title! I'd told all my funny stories and anecdotes and now I had the same audience for 5 more days. I sweated and grimaced through the 5 days waiting for someone to cry "Foul" and the whole class to walk out in protest. It didn't happen and when the critiques came in they were slightly HIGHER than for the "same" course I'd already given them a few weeks earlier!

One particularly bad course from the course notes point of view had me begging my manager to be given time to rewrite it. I got three days and did all the materials and was really proud of the quality of the handout and the slides and the technical content and just the flow and structure of the thing. Other instructors raved about the material and the accompanying "ad hoc white board talks" that were included in a separate instructor's manual. I delivered the course and was excited to give MY course instead of some other pile of crap. The critique actually went down a few points compared with the previous version of the course even though anybody who'd seen both courses would have told you which one was 'hands down' the better course.

Which proved to me how meaningless critiques are for the most part.
March 1, 2006 10:59 PM
 

jason said:

I think the phenomenon you're talking about is exactly why stat analysis methods throw out the top and bottom N%. In your case, it would weed out the people who:
a) Attend conferences soley to get away from their day job and don't really care about the topic.
b) Spent the entire talk dreaming about (insert famous actor/actress) wearing a speedo.
c) Like popcorn with a very small amount of butter.
March 1, 2006 11:09 PM
 

Greg said:

It's actually probably more like 10% of the people that are either jerks or idiots, you know. So if you're getting only 1% intelligible negative feedback, I think that should equate to an automatic 4+ on your review. Statistically speaking, you're WAY ahead and kicking some serious butt.

And your presentations are great. You click in a way that most don't. If you're tired now, you probably bit off a little more than you can chew. Less cud. More sleep.

Also - if you never get compaints, chances are you're not trying hard enough. :)

gh
March 2, 2006 3:09 AM
 

punk said:

Rory, since I know you're an avid linguist and anthropologist, I'd like to introduce you to the slightly crude Norwegian word 'brønnpisser', which translates to 'well peer' ('well' as in 'a pit or hole sunk into the earth to reach a supply of water', 'peer' as in 'person who pees'). A 'brønnpisser' is someone who ruins something - especially public debate - just for the sake of ruining it. I think you might have encountered some of these.

Norwegian, by the way, is an anglo-saxian language spoken by 4.5 million weather-beaten Norwegians living in Norway, and no-one else. But assuming that another 4.5 million people read your blog and all the comments written by your bloggies, that's about 9 million people knowing what a 'brønnpisser' is. That's strangely satisfying.
March 2, 2006 8:45 AM
 

Erno said:

March 2, 2006 9:15 AM
 

Attendee said:

4/10. Filling too hot.
March 2, 2006 12:37 PM
 

BigJim in STL said:

What else can I say, but

Potato Feet
March 2, 2006 1:54 PM
 

RoryisMyhero said:

Dear big whiner,

If what you are looking for is a good warm fuzzy feeling for everything you do in life, you should only do it in front of people that are afraid to hurt your feelings. Get over IT!!!

Guess this makes me the 1% :-P
March 2, 2006 2:01 PM
 

Rory said:

Dear Puddinghead,

"If what you are looking for is a good warm fuzzy feeling for everything you do in life, you should only do it in front of people that are afraid to hurt your feelings. Get over IT!!!"

I'm very clear with attendees that I'm *not* looking for "warm fuzzies." After doing this job for nearly two years, and exposing myself to all kinds of insults through this site, my skin is a bit thicker than you might think.

I actually don't pay as much attention to the evals that have high ratings - they typically have nice messages, but not a lot of information with which to improve my game.

It's the negative ones - those are the evals I want because those people found something about the event unsatisfying. If there's a possibility of being able to change something about the way the events take place based on that feedback, then it's valuable.

In other words, you ought to have read the entire post and thought about what it said rather than just responding. I'm not looking for warm fuzzies - I'm wondering about why it is that people waste my time and theirs by providing utterly useless feedback when they actually have a chance to do something constructive by leaving *meaningful* feedback.

It would be better to simply leave a low score and *no* commentary at all than to leave a low score and something stupid like a complaint about there not being enough fruit.
March 2, 2006 5:00 PM
 

Heather said:

I know exactly what you mean, Rory! Having to deal with "customers" on a daily basis, I find it extremely annoying when they make comments about things we absolutely have no control over. I mean, really! It doesn't take much to think before you comment, does it? Sometimes
I wish it was acceptable in my business to escort the said customer to the nearest exit, open the door for them and say, "Thank you for your suggestions. Please don't come back again!"
March 2, 2006 9:03 PM
 

Maya said:

Those evil, bitter, and obnoxious people are not slamming your product/service but you. They were hurrying that morning, forgot to eat their drug induced fruit, and it just so happened you were the lucky target for them to release some suppressed anger. And what's the icing on the cake? An obnoxious eval.
March 2, 2006 10:55 PM
 

George said:

RoryIsMyHero,

No, comments like that put you in the sub zero category. Why does everyone assume that's how most problems are correct "Get Over IT!" and what's really great is how it doesn't even apply to the context of this discussion.


Rory,

"It would be better to simply leave a low score and *no* commentary at all than to leave a low score and something stupid like a complaint about there not being enough fruit."\

Is that something you can say before you begin speaking? Because like I mentioned earlier, I think a comment like that would really help out in that area. I think most people would get the hint and let their sarcastic comments for another time. Also, I'll try and be a good boy and let my nice but non-helpful comments disappear as well.
March 2, 2006 11:09 PM
 

Adam said:

Dude. The people who pull this shit are like the people who piss in the toilets in our office restroom without putting the seat up first. They're either a) too clueless to realize what they're actually doing, or b) just don't give a rat's ass. Either way, there's nothing you can do but keep your head up high and roll with the punches, lame as they may be.

Cheers.
March 3, 2006 1:42 AM
 

Ed Kaim said:

I've gotten negative feedback because "the chairs are too close together" and there was "too much flash photography". I even got one because "presenter was too young--not credible".

What sucks even more is when you get a 8+ on a session with a few hundred people, but then there's that one guy that gives you 1s across the board. It doesn't really impact the final score, but it's just annoying that they went out of their way (as opposed to not filling out an eval at all) just to ding you.

This is why I always get photocopies of attendee driver licenses before starting a talk. The healing process is much quicker when you have an address to go with the handwriting.
March 3, 2006 8:32 AM
 

PatrickQG said:

Look Rory, this entry was lacking in essential fatty acids. Quite frankly I'm so dissapointed I'm going to demand my money back. However I'm not returning my free gift. That's mine now and there's nothing you can do about it. Unless you want to trade. Possibly for a non working tablet. Or soap.

If there was more fruit it might not have been an issue. Therefor more fruit is something you should actively consider for future entries. Or involvement of the commond cold (he's my favourite).
March 3, 2006 9:34 AM
 

ian said:

Adam - I wouldn't roll with anything in your restrooms. If they pee on the seat, you know they're peeing on the floor.
March 3, 2006 10:38 PM
 

Eric said:

I've worked in the service industry before the computer industry. While "Roryismyhero"'s comment you may have not liked, "Get of IT", that is precisely what you have to do. 10% of the population are just bitter angry people who want to make sure everyone else is bitter and angry too.

I know you CRAVE doing better and would like to have constructive comments but it's just not going to happen with everyone. I would just start laughing at them and taking the best ones and putting them into your presentation at the end and ask the audience to please not leave comments like these, they might find them funny and it might stop them from leaving stupid comments.

But you'll ALWAYS get them because there is always going to be that one bitter person who you can NEVER please. Just don't take it personally, that is the hardest part to do.
March 3, 2006 11:03 PM
 

Attendi said:

Mosquitos bite.
March 4, 2006 1:26 AM
 

BTJ said:

Best comment from my recent round of customer talks:

"Moth found in food, otherwise great."

My advice? Avoid placing moths or other insects into customer food items.
March 4, 2006 3:46 AM
 

Mark Freedman said:

I agree with Eric, but I'm a bit more cynical. I'd say 20% are bitter and angry, and half of those don't bother filling out the form.

I'm surprised that your manager doesn't take this into account though, and drop your lowest scores.

Either way, constructive criticism should always come with a negative comment. At the same time, when I rate someone very high, I make sure I point out why I felt that way also, so it can help them realize how they can stay at that level.
March 5, 2006 1:38 AM
 

Richard Brightwell said:

1) Criticism makes the inferior feel superior.
2) Criticism makes the inferior and stupid feel superior but bewilders the superior.

That’s my thoughts on the matter. Of course, I’ve never seen your feet. Maybe the comment makes more sense than we know…
March 5, 2006 7:14 PM
 

JoeG said:


There is too much butter on this blog.
March 8, 2006 5:35 PM
 

Monkey Toes said:

Some members of your audience have had too much free popcorn. You've tried the nice way, now it's time to unleash "Service Pack America", if you know what I mean.

It sounds like you're getting a little burnt out. I'm sure reading customer feedback is frustrating, but remember that the people on the front who have communication skills, good hygiene and and satisfied customers value the information you provide and your unique talent for making its consumption entertaining.
March 11, 2006 9:21 PM
 

TrackBack said:

My audience
March 2, 2006 8:54 AM
 

TrackBack said:

A Message of Inspiration
March 4, 2006 9:54 PM
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