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Dear Diary - #6 - Helen of Troy

Dear Diary,

I think my last post did a good job of expressing how I'm feeling about the universe at this particular moment, but I thought I should point out that I also upped my dose of anti-depressants two days ago in response to the overwhelming feeling of dread that has seeped into every interaction I've had with the world lately. When messing with the dosage of an anti-depressant, it should be noted, it can actually temporarily make you feel more depressed - even if what you've done is increase the dose. It seems like a strange thing to happen, but it's not that odd when you understand the way the drugs work.

But this isn't a lecture about drugs.

It's just a few thoughts that I had while trying to take my mind off of my own life this week by watching a movie.

The movie was Troy - a modified and extremely abridged version of The Iliad.

The Iliad, as you probably don't know since you're just a diary, was an epic poem written by Homer a long time ago. Like, more than a hundred years ago. Before TV was invented. Before file sharing got the record companies' knickers in a bunch.

Way before that. We're talking ancient Greece. The period and place where, unlike our society, it was a regular practice for a grown man to take a twelve year old boy (or thereabouts) as his own personal sexual partner. Bit odd if you ask me, but that's how it was done. Very different time. (The boy would, by the way, grow to adulthood and eventually take his own boy as a partner - it was a tradition that went on and on and on...)

That's not why I'm writing this, though. That was just a factoid meant to move you into a state of shock. I think it's good to get a little history in every now and then, and especially when that history depicts practices which were so very different from our own. It's like drinking twelve cups of coffee with your eyeballs and brain in a very short period of time. A little wake-me-up in the early morning or late afternoon.

I'm writing this because, unlike The Iliad, which I think was written to lull the twelve year old boys to sleep so that all the Michael Jacksons of ancient Greece could have their "sleep-overs," I found the movie Troy to be a fine retelling of the myth of the wars started over Helen - originally of Sparta, but later of Troy, after Paris, son of Priam, stole her away in the hold of a ship captained by his brother, Hector, hero of the Trojans for his prowess on the battlefield.

Troy allowed me to see the story itself - the characters and their relationships - without such brain-numbing passages as the catalogue of the ships bound for Ilium. The kind of exposition demonstrated in Homer's work would never be allowed in this century. The Iliad, like other epic poems of the time, was passed down through a tradition of oral storytelling. It wouldn't have been so boring, given that ancient Greek had a tonal aspect that gave the poems a singsong quality, but if someone, now, were to attempt to recite the catalogue of ships to me in full, I'd probably try to shoot him in the face with whatever was handy. Since I don't own a gun, that means I'd probably try to shoot him in the face with a tripod or a fine male perfume or french-fries or something, but I'd still try. I wouldn't give up. It's about the principle of the thing.

Overall, though, I love the story. That one lovestruck man, Paris, was willing to send his entire country to war over his newfound love for Helen, a foreign hottie who set fire to his loins. This is the sort of thing over which wars ought to be fought. All this crap about land and weapons and oil and all that is lame in comparison.

But at the same time, if I were a Trojan civilian, living out my peaceful days behind the high walls guarding my city, I'd be pretty pissed off if one of the sons of Priam decided to send my country to war because he wanted to get it on with a woman already betrothed to the brother of Agamemnon, a king with whom Troy had an uneasy relationship.

The result was, to wrap it up in a couple words, a mess.

A thousand ships sent to another country to take a city for one woman. Then a thousand ships met with an army willing to duke it out for nearly a decade, defending the initial theft of that one woman.

Princes and heroes dying. Kings murdered. Bajillions of ordinary soldiers mowed down, widowing their wives and leaving children behind.

All for a woman.

If you haven't watched Troy yet, then I highly recommend you do so. If you've ever gotten the feeling that you've made a mistake in life - like spilling coffee on your laptop at work or something - then it's always nice to know that somewhere, at some other time, even if it was just a myth, someone else screwed up in a much larger way than you could possibly dream, and that countless lives were lost or destroyed because one selfish little son of a king thought that all the gore was worth getting the chance to "do it" with Helen.

It made me feel better, anyway.

Also, I liked the outfits.

Published Sunday, December 03, 2006 5:54 PM by Rory

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dan woolston said:

yeah and that one scene where he jumps up and kills the guy in slow motion with a might spear stab?  yeah..thats cool.
if there was ever a cool way to kill a guy..thats it.  you jump up and time slows down to a graceful lull.  you pick your targets vulnerable weak spot and... *doink* spear stab!  And then time resumes its normally scheduled program and there you stand all victorious, having stabbed somebody in slow motion.
December 3, 2006 10:32 PM
 

The Diary said:

Dear Rory,

A little know fact is that books are capable of limited sharing of knowledge amongst each other. (Although being a Diary there is nothing I am capable of exchanging, having been bound by the sacred trust of keeping intimate knowledge.)

I'm sure you already know that it wasn't simply Paris' passion which caused him to sail ridiculous distances to kidnap another king's wife. He had been promised the woman by Aphrodite in exchange for declaring her to be the fairest of the godesses and giving her the golden apple which Eris (Goddess of discord) had placed on the table in a deliberate attempt to cause mass destruction simply because she hadn't received a wedding invite. So it can be said that it wasn't Paris' fault, but the fault of the jealous and short-sighted gods. The poor guy got put in a pretty awkward position because he was supposed to be a wise a just man.

Of course, he then got pretty quickly seduced by offers of wealth / women and it all went downhill quite quickly. The hidden moral is not to take bribes, even from the goddess of love.

The human story wasn't really the focus of the original poem, and so it can be nice to have these stories given a modern slant. In that vein I've heard the film "Clueless" can be an interesting slant on Emma.

Of course, you should also remember that when the Iliad was written people didn't have many forms of entertainment other than drinking wine and reciting long poems - and it was important to get your money's worth.

Of course, the entire episode has slipped into modern language, and given us the lovely word "Trojan" which has a satisfying ring to it, and so - from a Diary's point of view was well worth it.
December 4, 2006 12:37 AM
 

anonymous said:

Why are you taking anti drep anyway? Shouldn't you try to get along with your feelings in another way?
December 4, 2006 12:54 AM
 

Rory said:

Diary -

"The human story wasn't really the focus of the original poem, and so it can be nice to have these stories given a modern slant. In that vein I've heard the film "Clueless" can be an interesting slant on Emma."

That's what I was getting at - Troy took the amazingly dull Iliad and turned it into something worthwhile.

Reading Homer actually made me physically violent. I had to throw things every few pages to stop the frustration from mounting.

That's how much I dislike Homer (or at least Lattimore's translation - but that's a whole different story).

"Of course, you should also remember that when the Iliad was written people didn't have many forms of entertainment other than drinking wine and reciting long poems - and it was important to get your money's worth."

It wasn't just entertainment, though. It was also an issue of literacy. The oral tradition of passing down myths, fables, and whatever was a way of making the information accessible to your average Greek yahoo who couldn't write and was probably too busy fornicating to care to want to try.

Which reminds me - they didn't just have wine and poems. They also had sex. And they made pottery.
December 4, 2006 1:42 AM
 

Rory said:

anonymous -

"Why are you taking anti drep anyway?"

For many reasons.

To begin, I'm not someone who's experiencing a highly transitory "Oh, dang, I got a parking ticket and now I'm going to be upset for a few hours" kind of sadness. It's something which lasts much longer and is much deeper.

I have a choice between being suicidal and taking a pill. I think the pill is the right choice.

Also, clinical depression (as opposed to just being sad for a couple days due to some outside influence) is a physical condition. It's a problem of the brain, and the brain is just a piece of meat. Your feelings are from your brain. It's all about the brain.

You wouldn't tell someone with cancer not to get chemotherapy, would you? If someone has a disease, then you try to treat it.

Depression is no different. It just seems different because most people know very little about the brain, and nothing at all about the way it works. Once you do a bit of reading up in this area, it becomes obvious, rather quickly, that clinical depression, once it reaches a certain level, isn't something from which someone should be expected to spontaneously recover - just as you wouldn't expect someone with cancer to spontaneously recover.

Also, and much more simply, I prefer my life with the meds than without. It's been much better, and I've wanted to kill myself far less often than before.

"Shouldn't you try to get along with your feelings in another way?"

You're assuming I don't work on dealing with my feelings in non-med ways.

Do you realize what a big assumption that is? Meds and counseling (or just thinking about feelings) are not mutually exclusive. Often, they go hand in hand. The pills without counseling are only so useful - and the same goes for counseling without the pills.

The highest success rates of recovery from depression are seen in people who take a multifaceted approach at dealing with the problem - medically, psychologically, socially, etc. - not just choosing one option from the bunch.
December 4, 2006 1:51 AM
 

Oliver Lippold said:

Actually I thought the film was pretty shit. I've not got anything against films based on classical texts - in fact quite the opposite, a few years I had a dream of writing a screenplay based on the Odyssey. I thought it would be quite easy to sell: "Hey Mr bigshot Producer, how many actual films of the Odyssey are there around, whereas how many films are based on the Odyssey? The world is gagging for a decent film". I'd be able to drop my job as a VB developer and gain untold riches as a result of "The Odyssey: The Motion Picture".

And then what happened: those bastards came along, made Troy and killed half the fucking characters who should be in the Odyssey! How's Telemachus supposed to visit Menelaus? How am I supposed to juxtapose Odysseus and Penelope against Agamemnon and Clytemnestra? Wankers!
December 4, 2006 3:35 AM
 

paul said:

Did Helen have any sisters?
December 4, 2006 6:03 AM
 

Ms. Nic said:

i remember once upon a time being one of those people that were anti-rx. i'm not really sure when i changed my mind or stopped being so preoccupied with the taboo, but i think it has something to do with becoming a little more modern in problem solving. and outsourcing things that are difficult to technology.

per dealing with feelings/problems in another way, sometimes i graph them. it's the weirdest thing ever, but it works for me! it's a lot more fun than exercising anyway.

"Shouldn't you try to get along with your feelings in another way?"

You're assuming I don't work on dealing with my feelings in non-med ways.

Do you realize what a big assumption that is? Meds and counseling (or just thinking about feelings) are not mutually exclusive. Often, they go hand in hand. The pills without counseling are only so useful - and the same goes for counseling without the pills.

The highest success rates of recovery from depression are seen in people who take a multifaceted approach at dealing with the problem - medically, psychologically, socially, etc. - not just choosing one option from the bunch.
December 4, 2006 12:19 PM
 

bart said:

If you want to find out how terribly sick were the ancients in terms of sexuality, I advise you to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lives_of_the_Twelve_Caesars
I also suck at managing my feelings. It should be a an automated process for dealing with sentiments and a garbage collector to. I had depressive moods and made big mistakes during those times. You need to fall in love with someone. It is the fastest cure. In stead of thinking every two minutes about your problems you will think of that special person. Every dark thought you have will pale when you picture her :)
After you are cured you can always dump her and become the cold hearted, Amouage smelling, man you were once :D
December 4, 2006 1:53 PM
 

Lawrence Pina said:

HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
December 4, 2006 3:54 PM
 

anon said:

Sounds like what we did in Iraq, except for the beautiful woman part, unless GW happened to smuggle himself back some Iraqi honeys for a harem, which I suppose wouldn't be too surprising...
December 4, 2006 4:28 PM
 

Rory said:

Ms. Nic -

"i remember once upon a time being one of those people that were anti-rx. i'm not really sure when i changed my mind or stopped being so preoccupied with the taboo, but i think it has something to do with becoming a little more modern in problem solving. and outsourcing things that are difficult to technology."

For some reason, many people are opposed to the use of meds for controlling things like depression.

What's really odd, though, is that the world is full of smokers and drinkers. Combining alcohol and nicotine is actually a pretty good way to beat both anxiety and depression. From a clinical standpoint, the only real difference between swallowing a pill and drinking/smoking is that the pill is fairly safe while drinking/smoking do lung/liver/heart/brain damage.

People self-medicate for depression and anxiety all the time. They just don't realize it.

Interesting stuff...
December 4, 2006 4:29 PM
 

Rory said:

Lawrence -

"HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..."

That made my day :)
December 4, 2006 4:30 PM
 

Bork Blatt said:

Well, I thought this "Dear Diary" thing was a monologue. I find it deeply disturbing that the diary is talking back! I mean, that's what we have women for, right ;-)

I wonder if the whole Troy thing could have been avoided if they all used anti-depressants, or some recreational substance. We could have been watching "The *high* life of Helen" or "Hector makes a hash, then smokes it". At any rate, if the husband was still angry enough to send all the ships out, there is very little chance the crews would have had the concentration to get there.

Man, that Achilles, what a heel.
December 5, 2006 6:25 AM
 

anon said:

My 'URL' above is a link to a feel-good story about a boy named Rory.
December 5, 2006 7:16 AM
 

Nikkidemas said:

Troy had historical value??  Huh...with Brad, Eric, & Orlando, I didn't notice much of anything else.  I'd sure like to do a little oral storytelling with Achilles!  ....ah, inappropriate.
December 5, 2006 10:59 AM
 

dan woolston said:

"anon said:
Sounds like what we did in Iraq, except for the beautiful woman part, unless GW happened to smuggle himself back some Iraqi honeys for a harem, which I suppose wouldn't be too surprising..."

dude...what the hell are you smoking?
some people will use absolutely anything to slam Bush.
Jesus jumped-up Christ.

John: "Hey Bob, did I tell you my kid learned how to ride his bike over the weekend?"
Bob: "Yeah I wish George W would learn how to ride a bike.  Maybe then this thing in Iraq could have been avoided."
December 5, 2006 11:41 AM
 

theo said:

i researched the topic of depression a lot when i first came to redmond by myself. it was overwhelming. from family problems to the first time -softie fire hose. under a similar set of duress, my now wife seemed chronically depressed as well and at that time seriously considered taking prozac.

spurred by a late night pbs special - which btw, i now feel compelled to say please support public television and radio :) - i started researching what science, if any, there was of omega 3's (aka just fish oil). turns out, there's plenty, and while pharma economics discourage such "unscientific" answers particularly one that has no patent-protected revenue prospects, the proof was in the pudding both in the large body of research published and in my own trial and pudding-finding exploits.

being a bit manic depressive (which i assert was inherited from a certain side of my family that shall remain nameless) and hyperactive then, or type-a to be a bit more pc, a healthy dose of high quality fish oil has changed my life around 180 since that time. if you read my blog, you'd likely imagine me a health nut, replete with fish oil references. given how much it's improved my quality of life, thought that's the least i could do.

i've been on a regimen of healthy eating, fish [oil]-loving and the like for 4 years now and just couldn't be more pleased. on one level, it's great to know that i wasn't "out of control" but rather a bit unbalanced something essential fatty acids (EFAs, omega 3's, fish oil) rebalanced. on another, i feel bad for ignoring my grandmother who in my youth would cook fish for dinner at least twice a week, buy me lecithin capsules for my brain and schoolwork, and me just being a rebellious disrespectful punk who ignored and disrespected the tribal knowledge passed down as it should be from one generation to another, on account that i knew better, scientific factoidologist that i was.

i'm sure many of us had one parent or grandparent or another try to spoon feed cod oil down our throats without explaining why. in the old days, it was good for you. in the mid-1950s, it was found to have natural vitamins (D & E). it wasn't until circa 1975 when electron diffraction lithography was perfected that we were able to identify the 3-d organic lattice structures of omega 3s, of which composes half a person's brain matter, and the implications that entails.

i suppose my point, end of day, is that folks may also want to research and assess whether they may benefit from an alternative or supplement, at least see for themselves if there's possibly another way, rather than accept by fiat what rx is deemed necessary by folks who have a disproportionate economic interest in charging their customers lots of high-margin money for the rest of their life to depend on their unique, and in recent years, rather unpredictable set of anti-depressives, some of which are now "black-box", despite best efforts of consumer groups and, ahem, the FDA.
December 9, 2006 12:40 AM
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