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Comic: HR and Recognizing Diversity

I am lost without HR.

For years of my life, HR worked to influence what I thought and did to ensure that my conduct was businesslike; professional.

HR obviously failed in nearly every possible way, but just as I'm certain a prisoner slowly destroyed by Chinese water torture misses that black art the day he's freed, I miss HR.

Before I arrived on the corporate scene, I had a very relaxed attitude toward what HR calls "diversity."

For example, if I was talking to a black guy named Frank, then I was talking to a black guy named Frank. His ethnicity was important to me in that he was obviously a different color than I am. Beyond that, it wouldn't have had any other effect. It was a superficial way of seeing differences, which is also the best way of seeing certain differences. I'm not blind - like I said, I think I would have noticed that Frank was black. I would not, however, have measured everything he said and did against that one quality.

It was so complicated back then.

Then corporate life began, and so did HR "sensitivity training." Nobody bothered to ask me how I feel about "diversity" and other HRiffic topics. I was sucked into the fold as though however I saw the world regarding "diversity" was inadequate, and only HR could save me from myself.

I'm glad they got to me in time. Where I used to disregard things as unimportant as someone's ethnicity (we're all just people), HR did everything it could to teach me that people are very, very different, and that I need to constantly see that.

In my old world, Frank would have been that one guy who, by the by, was black.

In my new world, Frank was an African-American who had deep roots in some other country somewhere from some time, and bad things happened, and so on and so forth, and although he looked perfectly happy during our water cooler chats, he was dying on the inside because I repeatedly failed to recognize his diversity in conversation and tell him how amazing I thought it was that he was born with more melanin than I was.

What's so great about the HR viewpoint is that Frank is no longer just one of the guys. Now he has this label that separates him out from the community and puts a sort of spotlight on him.

Old way: Frank was a guy like the rest of us.

New way: Frank is an African-American, which is profoundly different from being a plain old American. After all, he was born in the same town I was born in - how could we possibly know anything about each other without "sensitivity training" and PC labels? We need to single him out as often as possible to recognize his diversity. Only then can the people who developed this HR program shed their White Guilt.

Labels like "African-American" segregate. It's the stupidest thing ever invented in a time when people are supposed to be going about life without telling each other where to sit on the bus and what bathroom to use and other crap like that.

Note that, if you do happen to be an African living in America, then the label makes perfect sense. It can be confusing, though - a very good friend of mine from a few years back is a white guy, born in Uganda, who is more of an African-American than most of the people in this country to whom the label is applied.

Is this all seeming silly yet?

The best part of all is that HR mostly just pisses people off. It confuses them. It tries to force people to change the way they see the world whether they want to or not.

You wind up with "initiatives." I hate these things. These are weapons assembled by HR that are used to beat you in the face with an idea. Over and over. You're never quite sure what they're asking of you, but it hurts.

Nobody gets the point.

Nobody learns a damn thing.

I am lost without HR...

Published Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:09 PM by Rory

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Comments

 

kettch said:

The problem is that your opinions of diversity don't count. In fact, neither do mine. We are both straight, white males, which makes us the most discriminated against group in the world.

We are the only ones who can be labeled racist or sexist. Everyone else can do whatever they want, but we have to watch our every word and action.

At least, that's what I learned in diversity training.
October 9, 2007 1:54 PM
 

John Muir said:

"Human resources" … say the name a few times and stop. What are they describing in the first damn place? Kinds of kit, sizes of screws, seams of coal? Human: meet the fact you're being made an object. Now we're going to need to run a few tests.

Welcome to the HR-Free World. Take a deep breath now.
October 9, 2007 2:02 PM
 

Grant said:

[We are both straight, white males, which makes us the most discriminated against group in the world.]

Oh boo-frickin-hoo. Cry me a river kettch.

You can sit there and with a straight face actually equate having to endure the Political Correctness of being a white male to the atrocities some ethnic groups on this planet have had (and continue) to endure?

You are precisely the reason HR feels the need for "diversity training" in the first place if you actually believe that load of rubbish.
October 9, 2007 2:30 PM
 

holly said:

Are you fucking for real, kettch!!  

Interestingly, that's what my fundi, right wing brother believes too.
October 9, 2007 2:50 PM
 

Jason Hanford-Smith said:

Rory you totally hit it on the head. Since moving to the US from England, I've had to tread so damn (err.. darn) carefully that it sucks just about any joy there is out of working.

I was born and raised in London and had many friends from all races and background (my closest, longest known friend is Turkish-Cypriot!)

I worked, played, laughed, fought and won both with and against anyone regardless of colour (hell yeah, there's a 'U' in it!) or gender.

You go watch the (original) British version of The Office. The one where the people from the other office come to mingle ahead of the merger... and David Brent (Ricky Gervais) is trying to tell a "black joke" and one of the other staff (who's black!!!) comes to the huddle late and Brent is all so flustered and goes into HR-Diverity-back-stepping-overload: Its so funny for two reasons: Firstly, the black guy ends up finishing the joke and thinks its funny (not that racism is... right on!). Secondly, it was probably the first thing to be cut before bringing the series to the US (along with just about everything else that's funny about the original), thus missing the whole bloody point!

The line that sums it up best for me is: "In my old world, Frank would have been that one guy who, by the by, was black." And that was exactly how my entire life used to be... skin colour, gender and sexual preference were just additional properties of the person, much like hair style, choice of cars, favourite football (footy) team, and so on

Not sure that I want to make any other point than "right on!"
October 9, 2007 2:55 PM
 

Rory said:

Grant -

"You can sit there and with a straight face actually equate having to endure the Political Correctness of being a white male to the atrocities some ethnic groups on this planet have had (and continue) to endure?"

One of the points here is that most of the people who get pushed into diversity training really don't need a lecture from anyone to know that there's nothing funny about what others have to deal with. The training is so gratuitous that it's almost insulting.

If someone really does need training so as not to mock someone who, because of his ethnicity, has been through hell, then is diversity training really going to help? And does *everybody* need to go? I've encountered plenty of small stupid remarks made by coworkers that would warrant the HR guillotine, but I can simply respond by explaining to the asshole that he's being an asshole. I'd guess that censure from peers is going to have a stronger effect than watching a twenty minute video that looks like Sesame Street for adults.

As for the white male thing - it's a bizarre thing in the states right now. You can get bumped out of the running for a job just because you're a white male shooting for a position that has to be filled by a "minority" (I love all these labels - each additional one just widens the divide between groups). In that, it's not a meritocracy. You could be the more qualified applicant, but lose the position.

I understand to some extent why it's done, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to suck if/when it happens to you.

It's confusing to figure out how to feel about it. It seems right, in that the idea is that this person hasn't had opportunities to take advantage of his potential, but... what do you do when you're the one who loses out on that arrangement?

It's not going to seem fair.

Like I said, it's confusing. I don't know what it's like in other countries, but what kettch is saying is pretty familiar.
October 9, 2007 3:41 PM
 

kettch said:

The reaction my comments got actually helps prove my point.

I've never had a racist thought in my life, and yet everywhere I look, I see various groups telling me how horribly racist and discriminatory I am.

"You can sit there and with a straight face actually equate having to endure the Political Correctness of being a white male to the atrocities some ethnic groups on this planet have had (and continue) to endure?"

If someone who has *directly* experienced an atrocity posts about their experiences, then we can talk. Besides, I'm not making that comparison. Or perhaps you are blaming me, and others for the horrible things done in history by our ancestors? In that case, you might as well blame something good on me. My family name is German if that helps narrow the selection.

"You are precisely the reason HR feels the need for "diversity training" in the first place if you actually believe that load of rubbish."

Why, because I get offended when someone implies that I am prejudiced (an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.) based merely on the color of my skin?
October 9, 2007 3:43 PM
 

Rory said:

Jason -

"Rory you totally hit it on the head. Since moving to the US from England, I've had to tread so damn (err.. darn) carefully that it sucks just about any joy there is out of working."

The damn/darn thing... yep. :)

"I was born and raised in London and had many friends from all races and background (my closest, longest known friend is Turkish-Cypriot!)"

I got to spend some time over there, going to school and hanging out, and it was completely different.

America is so often referred to as The Great Melting Pot, but it hasn't been my experience. I think of America as The Big TV Dinner - everything's on the tray, but it's all separated into neat little compartments.

I'd like to go into all the ways London differed from my experiences in the states as far as "diversity" goes, but I don't have the space here in which to do it, nor do I have the time. It's something I think about often, though. Maybe I *will* write that post someday...
October 9, 2007 4:04 PM
 

Rory said:

John -

"Human: meet the fact you're being made an object. Now we're going to need to run a few tests."

I was thinking along those same lines while writing this. I couldn't figure out if it was resources for humans, or humans available as resources.

(Not that either one of those definitions clears anything up.)
October 9, 2007 4:10 PM
 

kettch said:

Rory said: "I was thinking along those same lines while writing this. I couldn't figure out if it was resources for humans, or humans available as resources."

I can't help but laugh at the efforts of civilization to stop objectifying people and treat them as individuals, and the parallel efforts of software architects to further objectify them and treat them more abstractly.
October 9, 2007 4:43 PM
 

SteveJ said:

Don't forget the ultimate hypocrisy, that a group that exists to support  employees is actually the corporation's double agent.  The Francis of the corporate gods as it were.

Whenever I get an email about "resources", I always change the text to read paperclips.  Funny how it doesn't lose anything in the translation.
October 9, 2007 6:02 PM
 

Grant said:

[If someone who has *directly* experienced an atrocity posts about their experiences, then we can talk.]

Why? Someone who is more discriminated against than straight white men has comment on the Internet, on Rory's blog for you to accept that some group other than straight white men are more discriminated against? That's asinine. There are plenty of examples of groups who have been tortured, maimed, raped, and murdered for the religion they practice or color of their skin. When was the last time your wife and daughters were raped or you were tortured for being a straight white man?

[Besides, I'm not making that comparison.]

You *are* making that comparison. You said "We are both straight, white males, which makes us the most discriminated against group in the world. "

That can only be interpreted as saying that of every other group in the world that is discriminated against, white straight men are the most discriminated against. You are directly comparing straight white men to every other discriminated group on the planet and saying they are the most discriminated against.


Regardless of all that, you claim that you aren't a bigot, that you treat everyone equally, that you don't notice differences, then go on to point out how straight white men are "treated worse" than all those "other" groups. You have clearly drawn a line between "you" and "them" with "you" somehow being subjected to unfair treatment by "them".

Try reading about the ethnic cleansing of Serbs being "ethnically cleansed" in the Medak Pocket of Croatia (http://www.cda-cdai.ca/library/medakpocket.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Medak_Pocket) (or ANY other major atrocity in the world) THEN we can talk about how straight white men are mistreated in this big, bad, scary, unfair world.
October 9, 2007 6:04 PM
 

kettch said:

Grant: "There are plenty of examples of groups who have been tortured, maimed, raped, and murdered for the religion they practice or color of their skin. When was the last time your wife and daughters were raped or you were tortured for being a straight white man?"

Are you accusing me of something? I've already stated the atrocities that I was willing to take the blame for.


"Regardless of all that, you claim that you aren't a bigot, that you treat everyone equally, that you don't notice differences"

No, I never claimed that I don't notice differences. Nobody can make that claim.

Would it make you feel better if I revised my statement to say that straight white males are the most discriminated against group in the U.S.? However, I have no plans to do that as it's not relavent.

"You have clearly drawn a line between "you" and "them" with "you" somehow being subjected to unfair treatment by "them""

I never said "we" were being treated unfairly by "them". Most often the discrimination I talked about probably comes from other members or "our" group because they are afraid of being seen as prejudiced.

Again, I ask: Who are you to call me, or anybody else, a bigot without knowing anything about them? That is the very definition of prejudice.

As long as there are people in the world who are so concerned with differences that they feel that they have to continually get on their high horse and point them out, there will continue to be racial difficulties. I say this because it is possible to fill the air with so much fog that you can't see the icebergs. So please stop contributing to the problem. If you feel that you need to do something about racism, or ethnic cleansing, then why don't you go do something about it? I don't mean attacking random people on the internet, go find a real problem to try and solve.
October 9, 2007 6:33 PM
 

Eric said:

I am angry, hear my vitriol in this context of a blogs comment section.  For my few words will surely change something, for my anger wills it to.  

Everyone is stupid and wrong but me and my opinion.  No other opinion shall go before me.  I cannot laugh, nay I cannot even smile at a joke without pointing out how it might offend someone, in some way.  

So I SCREAM out to you all, you are wrong and horrible people, and I am a right and righteous man.  So sayeth I (who am right and righteous if you've read this far.. so you know it's gotta be true and that you must be wrong... and of course a horrible horrible person who probably had B.O. and doesn't cut his nostril hairs).
October 9, 2007 6:34 PM
 

Cindy Chiuchiolo said:

"We are both straight, white males, which makes us the most discriminated against group in the world."

I really don't get that comment.

I think that no matter who you are, you've probaby been the victim of some sort of discimination at some point in your life (or belong to a label that has been socially discriminated against).

I think the idea that strait white males are the most discriminated of them all by far is a very silly notion (especially if we're talking globally). I'm not saying they aren't discriminated, or that white male is discirmination is okay (no discrimination is), but I am saying that there's a whole lot more (and worse) discrimination going on against other groups. I think that's all Grant was initially trying to say (maybe?).

"We are the only ones who can be labeled racist or sexist."

Maybe you feel that strait white males are more discriminated against becuase you are a strait white male, but in my own experience it isn't true. I've been called sexist many a time and I'm not a guy. I have also been the victim of sexism and seen it my whole life- I wasn't allowed to play baseball when I was young (softball is for girls). My little sister wasn't allowed to play football when she changed schools (since they couldn't say she was 'going to get hurt' like they told the other girls, they said she was 'too big and might hurt the guys'). I could go on about other examples... but I'll sum up instead.

Strait white males are not the most persecuted people around no matter how you look at it. I'm sorry you feel that way, but there's no genocide against you or anything- and I've been the victim of discrimination too (as we probably all have)- so relax. I'm sorry you had to go through diversity training, kettch (you too Rory). :) We as a human race are discriminated for any label and division that people can get their grubby little minds on.

ps - Well said Eric. :)
October 9, 2007 7:08 PM
 

kettch said:

Eric: Thanks for derailing the flame war. Surely I would only have continued to goad people for my own amusement when we could all get into a more interesting argument. I have the bad habit of finding people who want to be pissed off about something and helping them along.

I'll start something new:
Apple Sucks
Microsoft Sucks
<insert political party> sucks
there is no global warming
there is global warming
people who trim their nose hairs suck
October 9, 2007 7:09 PM
 

Rory said:

Grant -

"You *are* making that comparison. You said 'We are both straight, white males, which makes us the most discriminated against group in the world.'"

I try not to speak for other people, but when I read his comment - particularly the line you've quoted - it just seemed like hyperbole.

He isn't literally saying that he's part of a group that's the most discriminated against in the world - my guess is that he's referring to the way in which white guys in America sometimes feel like they've been put in a group out of which extends so much hatred, racism, sexism, and other -ism words.

The reality is different, although not unrelated, which is where something like hyperbole is useful.

Just to make a point...
October 9, 2007 8:13 PM
 

kettch said:

Rory: Word.

Hyperbole on Neopoleon? NEVER!
October 9, 2007 9:03 PM
 

Dick said:

Stack Ranking
Re-Org
Envision
Comfortable with ambiguity
Raise the bar
Hit it out of the park
Stretch goals
Optimize
Slipstream
Cross group
Nimble
October 9, 2007 9:16 PM
 

The Cowboy said:

Wow, this topic really gets people riled up.  As I see it the insanity affects much more than just corporate america.  When I was in college a group of students formed the Black Student Union.  Obviously a prerequisite for membership was that you had to be black, so being rather not black I was effectively barred.  I didn't really think much of it until one of my friends said to me "I'm going to start the White Student Union."  I almost replied "But that would be racist" until I thought about it.  Why is that racist?  It's not the Skinhead student union or the KKK student union, just the White Student Union.  How is that different than a Black Student Union?  Any ethnic group on campus could have formed a Student Union except the whites, because merely existing would have been perceived as racist.  My eventual answer was, "Why exactly do we have to have student unions based on ethnicity?"  I never got a good answer.

I had (another) really good friend in college.  She also happened to be 1) female 2)black and 3)in a wheelchair.  I never really noticed particularly, she was just my good friend Regina.  Why do I notice it now?  

Racism lives on all sides of the ethnic/gender/whatever fence, not just the white guy side.  Things are far better than they once were, but are we helping things by labeling all white guys as racist pigs, or is that really just another form of racism?  I seriously doubt that white males are the most discriminated group in the world, but they are the only group in the U.S.A. with no legislation to protect us from it.  Luckily I'm part Cherokee, so BURN IN HELL YOU WHITE DEVILS!  GIVE ME BACK MY LAND!
October 10, 2007 10:01 PM
 

kettch said:

The Cowboy: "Luckily I'm part Cherokee, so BURN IN HELL YOU WHITE DEVILS!  GIVE ME BACK MY LAND!"

Dude, you can totally build a casino and we'll give you all of our money, and throw in the land just to get into the high stakes tables.
October 10, 2007 11:37 PM
 

Jivlain said:

The Cowboy: that reminds me of a story of some student group that decided to set up a $100(!) scholarship just for heterosexual white males - a reaction to all the (much larger) scholarships for just about any minority. The shit promptly hit the fan, and the group was actually derecognised by the student union as a result.
October 11, 2007 1:40 AM
 

Akshay Vasudev said:

Rory,
When will the new podcasts be available?

Btw, you should change this as well: http://www.thesmartestman.com/about.aspx
October 11, 2007 2:39 AM
 

Akshay Vasudev said:

"you should change this as well: http://www.thesmartestman.com/about.aspx"

i meant the microsoft part.
October 11, 2007 2:40 AM
 

Ricado said:

Rory. You have a lot to learn. Your comments show a total lack of knowledge about the issue. Being your first post after leaving MS seems like you either said, wrote or did something really stupid during your last days and were forced to leave, which is not surprising at all.
Even more concerning is the amount of people that actually agree with your comments; most probably the same type of hypocrites I work with every day.
And, Yes, you own this site, looser.
October 11, 2007 7:58 AM
 

Ryan Roberts said:

You are so going to fry for this one Rory. Might as well 'fess up to being a Klan member.

This diversity mania is unfortunately not restricted to the US, it has spread to the UK public sector and a fair few corporations. A few months back, I had an HR department representative quibbling over the 'gender' field on a system to _simplify_ the distribution of safety clothing. They didn't like male/female as it might discriminate against those with confused gender identities. I don't think they liked it when I burst out laughing in the meeting and suggested a slider from 1..10. Without the appropriate use of ridicule this shit will spread.

Really, I love the US, but please keep the puritanism.
October 11, 2007 8:58 AM
 

Erwin Blonk said:

@kettch
"We are both straight, white males"

That´s quite an assumption when it comes to Rory. Ask Mark Miller, who thinks he is (meaning, by your definition, he isn´t)

Rory, are you?
October 11, 2007 9:22 AM
 

Erwin Blonk said:

Grammar is the harderst part of gender discrimination. You can´t just say he, you make it he or she. That´s annoying, so it became s/he. For the undecided it has to be it. Somewhere in the 80´s someone proposed to solve it by using s/h/it.

As for black and white, make it bl/ithe and be done with it.
Other proposals for other combinations will be considered.

And hey, I´m a real nice guy. Socially inept, introvert, pretty much faceblind, I can´t tell if I talk anyone is listened or interested (look up the rest under Asperger), but I´m a real nice guy. Most of the time. And more or less a straight, white male.
October 11, 2007 9:57 AM
 

Rory said:

Ricado -

"Rory. You have a lot to learn. Your comments show a total lack of knowledge about the issue. Being your first post after leaving MS seems like you either said, wrote or did something really stupid during your last days and were forced to leave, which is not surprising at all."

You are SO not invited to my birthday party.
October 11, 2007 1:35 PM
 

DonXML said:

Rory still rocks, even without the blue badge mojo.  Must be the hair!
October 11, 2007 6:42 PM
 

Erwin Blonk said:

@DonXML

For the love of hairdressers everywhere, do not mention Rory´s hair. Too many have given up their lives over it, or are at best living on the streets (of a very classy neighborhood, but that speaks for itself).
October 11, 2007 10:39 PM
 

Celes said:

"Ask Mark Miller, who thinks he is"

It's not just Mark Miller (who really is just hoping). There are various slip ups if you listen carefully and read carefully.

Like what was that about putting a Yoda doll in a purse?

Maybe Rory is 'metrosexual' or has bi or feminine tendencies or whatever...

Me, I like the ambiguity. After all, androgyny can be hot... like David Bowie in The Labyrinth.

If there is question about Rory, he wears it well, like the hair.
October 12, 2007 3:39 PM
 

Chris Marshall said:

"One of the points here is that most of the people who get pushed into diversity training really don't need a lecture from anyone to know that there's nothing funny about what others have to deal with. The training is so gratuitous that it's almost insulting."

Isn't diversity training about more then this?

Don't arrange work gatherings around events that may exclude certain members. For example, don't encourage a "go down the pub and get drunk" all the time if you have a teetotal Muslim on the team (or anyone teetotal for that matter).

Where I work, all the "work outing" ideas are so male-oriented; paintballing, go-karting etc. What about the (few) women who work here? Oh dear, now I'm gender-stereotyping. Oops.
October 15, 2007 3:34 AM
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