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There's a Place in France...

This song may not exist outside the United States of 'Merica, but it was hugely popular among the children when I was a children which is a point in history that's getting disturbingly far away.

Ha ha. Just had a little 1/3 life crisis there, provided I live to 90, which I won't.

The song goes like this:

There's a place in France

Where the naked ladies dance

And a hole in the wall

Where the men see it all

A place in France... Where the naked ladies dance...

Oh, how we loved this song. Along with a terribly dirty song about Popeye, we were entertained for hours on the playground.

The Place in France song popped in to my head this afternoon just after I woke up. I enjoyed the tune just as I did in my youth, but I picked up on a few things I hadn't previously noticed.

I don't know what the songwriter intended with these cryptic lyrics, but I think he(?) raised far more questions than he answered.

Consider:

  1. Where is this wonderful sounding place in France, and why can't I find it in any travel guides?

  2. Why must the men watch the show through a hole in the wall? And what wall are we talking about?

  3. Let's pretend for a moment that the men are watching the show through a hole because the show is just too darned dirty for prime time. Did I mention this was France? Inside this house of corruption, I can guarantee that not only would the men be welcome to watch the show sans hole, but there would probably be family seating in the place where children are given buckets of crayons with which to draw on the paper tablecloths that the French often lay down in their restaurants. Again: why must the men remain on the far side of the wall? Shame? Safety? Why?

  4. Where is the far side of the wall? How does one access it? Is it still inside the building, or is it only reachable via an alley or some similar path of inconvenience? This is important, people. Follow me here.

  5. If one makes his way to the hole in the wall via an indoor establishment, then what establishment is it? If it's a restaurant, then wouldn't the owner think it kind of strange that a bunch of men are huddling around a hole in is wall?

  6. Continuing with the indoor hole, and it being likely that these men couldn't get away with their peeping without being discovered by the restaurant/shop/whatever owner, then why does the owner allow these men to do it? Does he make his money on drinks? Does he work with the place where the naked ladies dance to provide a cheap alternative to seating in the naked lady club? Is it for those who are short on cash and cannot but afford a discounted seat where one observes a show only through a hole in the wall?

  7. Let's move on to the possibility of an outdoor-accessible hole. Wouldn't pedestrians in this high class neighborhood want to see what the crowd of men was about? And, advancing a conservative figure of, say, 10% of all pedestrians becoming hole-interested, would the hole crowd grow at such a rate that, eventually, the peepers would be spilling out from their alleyway into the street? Wouldn't the police then catch on? And would the men in the crowd finally get busted for avoiding hole-in-the-wall-through-which-a-man-sees-all tax? And wouldn't this then negate the advantage of saving money by snagging a cheap seat holeside? When does the hole become a burden rather than a joy?

  8. Whether inside or out, I think we've established that the crowd would be substantial. Though, for a hole, I would argue that only three or four people would be a crowd. The standard size for a hole is: small. This presents two (2) problems that I shall address presently.

  9. If we go back to the possibility that the hole is a pay-per-view service for the poor who can't afford a proper seat at the naked lady club, then is the cost worth it? The hole is, as you may recall, small, and, by my estimates, can only serve one eye of one man at a time. Thus emerges a problem similar to those who have invested in time share condos: how much time is one permitted at the coveted vantage point of unobstructed naked lady viewing? Thirty seconds is, I think, reasonable. But would this limit the size of the crowd? Let us fancy that the show lasts one Earth hour. That temporal unit provides for one-hundred and twenty viewings per show. If you were one of the hole men, to how many viewings should you think yourself entitled? If I were a hole man, I would want at least four (4) viewings. Anything less, and my money would be better spent on a cheap bottom-of-the-barrel-and-maybe-even-on-sale dancing prostitute with a rare airborne mutation of syphilis. A peep at the ol' hole lasts thirty seconds; syphilis lasts a lifetime. Value, my friends. Value. Anyway, at thirty seconds per viewing, and at four (4) viewings per customer, entertainment could be provided for only thirty gentlemen. As we discussed earlier, the crowds grow as passersby satisfy their curiosity, get caught up in the dance sensation sweeping the nation, and then join the hole party. How do we decide which clients to allow, and which to turn away? Is there a lottery? Is it a take-a-number system?

  10. Related to the previous item (#9), could the problem be solved by first-come/first-served? If so, then wouldn't daylong loitering be encouraged by those who endeavor to secure one of the thirty vacancies? And wouldn't this then deprive each waiting man of a day during which he could have been working or seeking employment? Earning a paycheck from which to draw the necessary funds to be able to pay for a seat on the good side of the wall? Is this a plot to disappear the middle class? To relegate everybody to a lower stratum of society? Why isn't there a watchdog group looking out for these people? Who's to blame here? Should the men, who are clearly addicted to this performance of moral indiscretions, be pushed along to continue to spend their food money on naked lady dances, or should they be urged to attend a state run program for hole peeping addiction rehabilitation? And wouldn't the whole keep-them-down plan completely backfire when the men, unable to continue their pursuit of naked lady viewage because they've exhausted their meager savings on the naked lady dancing service, wind up on the street? Would that take the bottom out of the economy, or would it make a space for the next round of men to come along, have their time at the hole, and then wind up on the street along with the others, having played their parts in keeping the economy stable? I ask: is this an upper-class conspiracy to keep the poor man down? Hasn't France been here before? Can anybody say guillotine? Probably not, as it has more silent letters than a movie subtitled in Braille. I can't think of why you'd subtitle a movie in Braille.

  11. Why... why hasn't the club owner solved this problem with thirty francs worth of spackle? Repairing the hole would not only solve most of the problems discussed here, but it would seal the puncture in the fabric of civilization punched open by The Temptation of the Hole. I just invented a great name for a film oriented toward adults interested in watching other adults try to make babies. Applaud my ingenuity.

Who wins this game? The upper-class standing on the shoulders of the poor like at the end of Titanic? The kids in the club who are treated to free crayons while their wealthy parents, from their high end box seats, observe through their opera glasses the naked ladies dancing to the tune of perversion?

Who loses? The club proprietor who discounts his rates for the underprivileged? The men swept into a downward spiral of depravity? Society on the whole?

Where is the good? Where is the bad? Where are the saints? Who are the villains?

Is this a case of yin and yang? Or is this an Ultimate Fighting Championship smackdown of Heavyweight Evil vs. Welterweight Common Man?

I raise these questions to raise awareness. As citizens of the Planet Earth, we are all accountable for the well being of our species-wide network of flesh and blood.

There's a place in France

Where the naked lades dance

And a hole in the wall

Where the men see it all

But do they dance? Do they really dance?

I think I understand now.

And now I can rest.

Thank you. Oh, thank you.

This soul is set free, and I soar on the winds of knowledge in the sky of limitless possibilities.

Peace and understanding, all.

Peace and understanding.

Blessed be.

Peace... and understanding.

Published Friday, October 26, 2007 5:47 PM by Rory

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Stephen said:

The one I remember goes like this...

There is a place in France
Where the ladies wear no pants
And the men all walk around
With their weenies hanging down

Much more purposeful, but there's still the missing of piece of "where do I find find place?"
October 27, 2007 9:55 AM
 

Massif said:

Sounds to me like a Spike Milligan rhyme. But I can't find any evidence for that, so although I think it's just his style it shall have to go unclaimed.

I don't understand the song though, because there are several nudist beaches in France, where everyone dances naked, and plays sports and stuff.. And you can simply get in a boat and go up and down the Dordogne seeing them doing it.

This had a great impact on me as a child, especially when the nudists helped me off the rocks.
October 28, 2007 2:52 AM
 

Rory said:

Stephen -

"There is a place in France
Where the ladies wear no pants
And the men all walk around
With their weenies hanging down"

See, I'm not as much of a fan of that version. I hadn't encountered it before this. It might be a bias toward the song as we sang it in my early years, but... the rhythm feels awkward.

Actually, I just realized that it can be cleaned up by changing "There is a place in France" to "There's a place in France" and "And the men all walk around" to "And the men walk around."

So:

There's a place in France
Where the naked ladies dance
And the men walk around
With their weenies hanging down

I think that's an improvement, but I don't want to rewrite your childhood. However, if you find these changes acceptable, I'd like for this to be canon.

"Much more purposeful, but there's still the missing of piece of 'where do I find find place?'"

While I'm still down for the naked ladies bit, I'm not as interested in attending the event if there are a bunch of men walking around with their weenies hanging down. Or hanging in any direction. Nor would I like to see them hovering, twirling, or in any other fashion.

But, yeah - naked ladies - I'm there, yo.
October 28, 2007 4:42 PM
 

Rory said:

Massif -

"Sounds to me like a Spike Milligan rhyme. But I can't find any evidence for that, so although I think it's just his style it shall have to go unclaimed."

That's all this controversial song needs - a rumor mill. I thought you were above this sort of thing.

I thought wrong.

"I don't understand the song though, because there are several nudist beaches in France, where everyone dances naked, and plays sports and stuff.."

Massif, Massif, Massif... you're missing the point, my friend.

As you stated, there are "several" places in France where "everybody" dances naked.

What I seek, per the lyrics of the song, is *a* place in France where the naked *ladies* dance.

I'm not look for place*s*; I do not seek all the colors of the genderbow. Just one place; just one gender (that which is opposite mine (I just realized that I'm opening myself up to many jokes with this parenthetical aside)).

"And you can simply get in a boat and go up and down the Dordogne seeing them doing it."

Again... you say tomat*o*, and I say tom*ah*to. Well... given that you're the limey and I'm the yank, I think it would be the other way around, but you know what I mean.

You refer to a boat - I seek a hole in the wall. Apples and oranges, my friend. Apples and oranges.

"This had a great impact on me as a child, especially when the nudists helped me off the rocks."

That sounds simultaneously disturbing and arousing.
October 28, 2007 4:48 PM
 

Austin said:

Jonathan Coulton did a version of this song.  See here:
http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Over%20There
October 28, 2007 10:07 PM
 

Yuvi said:

As I am too young for this post, all that I was able to see was some weird numbers which said you were 30.

Old people.
October 29, 2007 5:59 AM
 

Frank said:

Re #11: "Why... why hasn't the club owner solved this problem with thirty francs worth of spackle?"

Wouldn't he use Plaster of Paris?

Frank
October 29, 2007 8:43 AM
 

Blue said:

My God, that BeerCo guy is sickening. I don't even want to leave a comment on his blog to let him know he's a complete idiot who probably has an undiagnosed mental illness as he would probably think he has a new fan...
October 31, 2007 6:11 AM
 

Yuvi said:

@Blue: Well, that was kinda what exactly happened with *me*. He's now started taking quotes from *me* out of context :) (Is that the correct smiley to use? Will it change soon? Will I survive the first direct encounter with a "troll"?)
October 31, 2007 7:45 AM
 

AxCrusnik said:

I never heard this version of the song before. In Canada the song goes:
In the land of Oz
Where the women don't wear bras
The men don't care
Cause they don't wear underwear
And there's a hole in the wall
Where the children see it all

Although it would probably be best if the children were left out of it.
November 1, 2007 1:34 PM
 

Anna McVann said:

I've heard this song to, but what I heard it goes like this:

"In the land of Oz
Where the women don't wear bras
and the men don't care
Cause they wear no underwear
and the children don't mind
cause their naked all the time
Here comes the genie
With an artifical wenie"

..Yep.
November 17, 2007 10:53 AM
 

Anna McVann said:

I've heard this song to, but what I heard it goes like this:

"In the land of Oz
Where the women don't wear bras
and the men don't care
Cause they wear no underwear
and the children don't mind
cause their naked all the time
Here comes the genie
With an artifical wenie"
In Canada of course.
..Yep.
November 17, 2007 10:53 AM
 

Glen McGlothlin said:

The version I remember is a bit older than you, from the early 1950's:

There's a place in France
Where the women do a dance
And the dance they do
Is called the Hoochie Koo

For some reason I associate this with the Marx Brothers (No, not the bloody Communists.  Rather, Harpo, Chico, & Groucho)
December 18, 2007 5:59 PM
 

purplefairy said:

On a place near mars the women smoke cigars every breath the take is enough to kill a snake when the snake is dead they put roses in his head then when the roses die the put diamonds in his eye then when the diamonds break it is 1968
January 2, 2008 10:20 AM
 

purplefairy said:

On a place near mars the women smoke cigars every breath the take is enough to kill a snake when the snake is dead they put roses in his head then when the roses die the put diamonds in his eye then when the diamonds break it is 1968
January 2, 2008 10:21 AM
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